Tuesday, August 9, 2016

Cosmic Disclosure Season 5 - Episode 12: SSP Think Tank with William Tompkins - Summary and Analysis | Corey Goode and David Wilcock

The average person living on Earth at this time is generally aware of the corruption that lies beneath the surface, but the depth to which this element has ravaged our world remains little understood. 

In the second part of the William Tompkins sub-series, more corroboration of the full disclosure narrative takes shape. Those familiar with the Cosmic Disclosure series will find his testimony regarding the inner-Earth, the interstellar slave trade, secret government projects, Moon bases, and extraterrestrials reminiscent of Corey Goode's information. In this episode, Tompkins further refines the emerging story of an advanced secret space program working to achieve an agenda that the public has been almost entirely unaware of. 

Majestic 12 (MJ12) is the name of an ultra-secretive group of high society figures who have managed the development of civilization from behind closed doors. As David Wilcock points out, this appellation didn't come into the public lexicon until the 1980s due to the work of William Moore and Stanton Freidman. For the better part of the 20th Century, leading up to the present, this council of councils has managed the planet and its policies. Anyone who was foolish enough to confront this group met an untimely end. One of these individuals was the Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal. 

Forrestal allegedly committed suicide after a mental breakdown in 1954, but according to Tompkins, he was actually murdered because he was a threat to the agenda of MJ12. The Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC) is a secret space program (SSP) faction that Goode refers to as one of the largest and most influential. It is a coordinating entity that manages the interface between industrial projects and the overarching goals of those who control them in government and corporate power. Although no direct association between the ICC and MJ12 group is made, given their influence it is possible there was some overlap. 

Tompkins served on several different projects throughout his illustrious career, one of which was a four-year stint under the supervision of MJ12. The think tank at Douglas Aircraft he was assigned to was managed by a group that he says no one had direct knowledge of. Everyone on the team acknowledged that meeting this group's desires was of great importance. Tompkins wondered if the MJ12 group—which he refused to mention by name—was connected to the now infamous Bilderberg group, the very same group that is most likely associated with the Committee of 200. The president of the United States at the time, Harry Truman, was not read-in or made aware of the projects Tompkins was working on. 

Tompkins was working for the US Navy's space operations unit—for lack of a better term—which was a secretly embedded think tank at Douglas. One of his colleagues was Dr. Wolfgang Benjamin Klemperer who believed two different groups were managing the project. One was the overt Navy leadership and another above them working from behind the scenes. Tompkins suggests that MJ12 assassinated Forrestal, the head of the Navy through his office as Secretary of Defense, which proved to him that this second secretive group must exist. 

Tompkins goes on to discuss the involvement of the Nordics, a loose term referring to human-like extraterrestrials who were able to operate within society, easily mistaken for normal humans. During his four years on the project at Douglas Aircraft, Tompkins had a beautiful girl working with him that he believed was a Nordic—although she never admitted it. However, he was able to glean that she was most likely working for what he called the Nordic Navy, who was given a specific mission by her superior's to support their human allies and assist them in developing their space programs. At the time, the Apollo missions were being established. Although the public only knows of the Moon landing portion of the Apollo program—the first phase—the second phase was to build a 20,000 person strong research facility on the Moon. Also, later phases included building similar bases on all planets and moons in our solar system as well as the 12 closest stars near our the Sun. 

But after landing on the Moon for the first time, Tompkins says the astronauts were asked not to plan any more long term missions by whoever met them upon landing. These were apparently the reptilians he mentioned in the previous episode

The Nordics were not just one race or group, according to Tompkins. There is a broad range of these beings, some of which are benevolent in nature whereas others were less than kind. Goode adds to Tompkins testimony by saying he has met Nordics during his service with the SSP which was working for the Draco as a conquered class within their society. The Nordics Tompkins worked with during his career were constantly communicating with him telepathically. He says that they were given the directive to ensure their programs were successful, and he was regularly advised as to how to overcome challenges from these otherworldly associates. 

During this time, Tompkins was told that some of the Nordics had been at war with a malevolent group of Mantid or humanoids that had the appearance of Praying Manti. 

Tompkins goes on to discuss a rather disturbing but expected aspect of exopolitical activity, abductions and slavery. The secret government has the ability to abduct people right out of their homes, to serve in the SSP, confirming Goode's previous testimony. Often those with skills and expertise in science and technology are taken and forced to work in laboratories underground or off world. But this is not only a human enterprise. The galactic slave trade is alive and well, with individuals disappearing off the face of the Earth, taken for any number of purposes; again confirming Goode's claims. 

Tompkins says that there are ancient extraterrestrial beings who have lived below the surface of the Earth for a very long time. The Earth is like a honeycomb, he says, with vast underground cave systems and caverns, some of which, are the span of several US states in size. These groups developed methods of carving tunnels through the rock that are several hundred feet in diameter. The SSP also developed this technology, using high-energy power systems to melt rock so as to line the newly formed tunnel walls with a glass like finish. Tompkins says that human-made tunnel boring machines often ran into much older tunnels and their occupants, who promptly advised the intruders to leave. Thousands of miles of tunnels have been carved out in this way, with vast subsonic train systems weaving their way throughout the Earth's surface. 

Goode and Wilcock offered expansive commentary on the points raised by Tompkins. 

Tompkins refers to the term alumni as a pseudonym for the secret government, which Goode says he also encountered. Goode also says that the blatant killing of anyone who stands in this groups way is most definitely part of their modus operandi, and those who are read-in to secret programs are informed when one of their associate strays from the flock and needs to be silenced. 

The hidden phases of the Apollo mission, especially regarding the development of extra stellar colonies and bases was something Goode was also able to confirm. He posits that the Global Galactic League of Nations base he visited in 2015 could have been one of these early Apollo mission facilities. He also confirms that there are many different Nordic races and that some were forced to work for the Draco as a conquered race. Some of these human-like Nordics could be inner-Earth peoples, once native to the Earth, but have since colonized other worlds. Some of these races have six fingers and are more obviously non-terrestrial whereas others easily blend in with modern humans. 

Goode recalls that during his mind-meld with the inner-Earth priestess Kaaree, he was shown images of her with military types in 1940s and 50s clothing. This remembrance could indicate that some of the so-called Nordics may be native humans from inner-Earth breakaway civilizations. 

At the mention of the Earth's honeycomb-like interior, Wilcock is taken aback. In previous episodes, Goode referred to the inner regions of the planet in the same way. In addition, the Law of One material also makes a similar reference, which Wilcock suggests are three independent sources of corroboration.

Goode adds that his understanding of geology suggests to him that there are vast tunnel systems and caverns below the Earth and that these are currently being used by some secret groups on Earth, as well as ancient breakaway civilizations and non-terrestrials who have embassies or bases here. 

Human trafficking and the interstellar slave trade is a point Goode has raised in the past, which Tompkins was able to confirm with his accounts. But up until recently, no mention of any efforts to stop this deplorable practice have been revealed in detail, until now. 

Goode states that those that facilitate human trafficking began using advanced tracking systems for their human chattel that enable them to determine the location of anyone who had been sold into slavery, regardless of where they were in the universe. The SSP Alliance, and possibly other aligned groups, according to Goode, has used this technology to liberate abducted people, who are then turned over to the Mayan breakaway civilization for healing. This rescue effort is actively taking place at this time, which shines a ray of hope in a somewhat dismal state of affairs. 


Goode mentioned that the secret government is known for overtly assassinating anyone who stands gets in the way, including public officials. But what may seem perplexing to some is that they would be so candid about this with their operatives. But if one considers the nature of why secrecy is so effective, the need to intimidate those within the program into compliance is paramount and often takes on the form of an intimidation or confidence game. That is to say, those who work with these programs need to feel that betraying the secret government is a grave infraction, an unthinkable act. And as such, the regular sacrifice of those within it as a demonstration of force would be required. In this case, the Secretary of Defence, James Forrestal, was allegedly killed. Goode confirms that he read about this assassination on the smart glass pads, to which Wilcock was a bit befuddled. But to maintain loyalty through fear, regular displays of power and authority are needed. We see this same method happening in the media under the guise of the War on Terror with the general population as targets of the intimidation. 

Wilcock's 2015 Consciousness Life Expo talk discussed the recovery of advanced technology from the Roswell New Mexico crash in 1947. One of the devices recovered was a console with controls for a six fingered hand. Goode referenced during his statements regarding the Nordics that he saw one of these six fingered beings during his time in the programs. This testimony suggests that the Roswell incident may have involved one of these Nordic races, and quite possibly, the craft was shot down by advanced weaponry developed in earlier programs. 

Tompkins referred to abduction programs that had the ability to pull people out in an instant, which sounds similar to a teleportation type of technology. According to Al Bielek, during the Montauk Project—that allegedly took place between the 1970s and late 80s, a "Time Tunnel" was developed with the capacity to "suck up" victims and transport them back to the main base of operations. Beliek claims that thousands of unwilling subjects were abducted in this way. It is possible that this Time Tunnel technology enabled the abductions referred to by Tompkins in his testimony. 

The more disturbing aspects of this narrative refer to the slave trade and abuses taking place at the hands of the secret government and their allies. The disappearance of countless individuals into obscure and most likely horrific conditions can be difficult to accept, let alone reconcile. But as part of the cosmic initiation currently taking place at this time—the upliftment of humanity from the abyss of disempowerment—the truth must be known. 

The reality is, the collective consciousness of humanity, even in it's disempowered and traumatized state, have created a wealth of abundance. However, part of this wealth is the dark and seedy nature of slavery and exploitation of life in general, the world we live in today. While we've been sleeping, millions, if not billions, of individuals have been harmed and oppressed. The fact that the SSP Alliance is actively recovering some of these victims of outright forced labor is heartwarming, to say the least. Also, the Mayan breakaway civilization's ability to heal trauma and restore the proper health of mind, body, and soul is also a great relief. But at the same time, we would do well not to become complacent or feel that we can rest easy knowing someone else is taking care of things for us. 

Here on Earth oppression and harmfulness are the bread and butter of modern life. And only by becoming aware of this problem can we begin to use our creative abilities to improve the situation, as Goode made light of. 

While it can be difficult to acknowledge the horrors which have taken place on our watch as custodians of this beautiful world, the truth is ever a liberating force. In this case, we are liberated from the shackles of disempowerment, freed from the belief that "everything is just fine." With this more sobered perspective, we can continue to be the change and stand for goodness in a world darkened by ignorance. 

Tompkins testimony helps lend credence to Goode's claims, as well as many others who have not been mentioned here. Whistleblowers put themselves and their loved ones at great risk to come forward, something we should not forget. The assassination of Secretary Forrestal stands as a clear example that these individuals are willing to do anything to achieve their goals, and to some degree, so must we. 

For the previous episodes in the William Tompkins' sub-series, see the following related articles:

Related Cosmic Disclosure Season 5 - Episode 10: SSP Testimonials with William Tompkins - Summary and Analysis | Corey Goode and David Wilcock

Related Cosmic Disclosure Season 5 - Episode 11: William Tompkins Bio | Corey Goode and David Wilcock

Shem from Discerning The Mystery usually offers an analysis of these episodes as well. 

Click here for the previous episode in this series.

For the current catalog of Cosmic Disclosure summaries click 

Episodes 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 have yet to be analyzed, but a transcript of these episodes can be found here

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Overview of Corey Goode, the Secret Space Program Alliance, and the Sphere Being Alliance:

Corey Goode is a Secret Space Program (SSP) insider and whistleblower that began disclosing information in 2009 under the pseudonym GoodETxSG. In 2014, he started revealing a great deal more information in an effort to prepare humanity for what he calls data dumps, set to occur at an opportune moment in the future. Much of the information he provides comes from Smart Glass Pads, iPad-like devices supplied to SSP personnel for information dissemination purposes. This will be a groundbreaking event, revealing the totality of Earth's history and the activities of the Cabal which will ultimately lead to a truth and reconciliation style tribunal to hold criminal elements accountable for wrongdoing. Additionally, the SSP Alliance intends on releasing all of the hidden technology to the people in preparation for a Star Trek-type golden age civilization.

According to Goode, the Cabal or the secret Earth government and their syndicates (as termed by the SSP Alliance) have enslaved humanity under a false paradigm of a technological advancement, while secretly developing incredible technology (a Star Trek level of advancement) used to colonize the solar system and beyond, engaging in trade with thousands of extraterrestrial races.

Space programs have been developed in secret all throughout Earth's history, and in many cases, groups broke away from the main culture forming what is called a Breakaway Civilization. Some of these civilizations have existed in secret, on Earth and beyond for, thousands of years. The Agartha Network is one such group that claims to be the original human race. It was this group in addition to the Draco Alliance, that made contact with a secret German space program in the early 20th Century.

In modern times, the Germans were the most advanced of the SSP groups, beginning their efforts in earnest during the early 1920's and 30's. The Americans were also developing a SSP, but were much further behind in technological advances. Later, the American SSPs were infiltrated and taken over by the Germans after the end of World War II. It was after this forced merger that the SSP, under the direction of the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC), expanded into the solar system and beyond, setting up dozens of bases and mining facilities chiefly using slave labor.

In the early 1990's, a faction within the SSP known as Solar Warden slowly began to go against the ICC, allying with a group of highly evolved extraterrestrials known as the Sphere Being Alliance in 2012. Since then, more factions have joined the alliance which is actively working to free humanity on Earth and beyond, known as the SSP Alliance. Despite their good intentions, the SSP Alliance is a group of highly damaged and morally ambiguous individuals, according to Goode, that recognize at some level the need to change the status quo, but are hardly angels.

The Sphere Beings are a group of five extraterrestrial races, one of which is known as the Blue Avians, that arrived in the solar system during the late 1980's. Two of the races remain unrevealed; however, there is also a race of Golden Triangle Head beings and Blue Orb beings made of light. Over the course of 20 years, they began bringing massive spheres into the solar system and surrounding area, some of which are the size of Jupiter. This is in an effort to down-step galactic energy waves, which are slowly changing life as we know it. These spheres are cloaked and not detectable by the surface population of Earth.

According to the Sphere Beings, a massive shift in energetic expression is now occurring in the solar system, as the result of a natural process of consciousness evolution, assisted by our solar system's movement through the galaxy and increasingly coherent energy fields encountered as a result. The Sphere Being Alliance specifically asked for Goode to represent them in SSP Alliance meetings as a Sphere Being Alliance delegate. Presently, the SSP Alliance is negotiating with the remaining cabal aligned programs, as well as innumerable races that have lived in the solar system for millions of years, and even breakaway civilizations once resident on the Earth's surface. The Sphere Beings have erected an energy barrier around the solar system preventing ingress and egress, trapping many of the negatively oriented groups that have been loosely allied with the secret Earth government syndicates for thousands of years. Since this event, the pyramid of power known on Earth known as the Cabal or Illuminati has fallen into disarray, because the Draco Alliance attempted to betray their underlings to the Sphere Beings in an attempt to gain passage out of the solar system and escape the coming justice of the SSP Alliance.

SSP factions encountered many intriguing things as they ventured out into the solar system. Apparently there are remnants of extremely old settlements and technology from what is called the Ancient Builder Race. These beings were incredibly advanced, using a type of consciousness technology that appears to be an inanimate object until activated by a user. They are also responsible for building ancient stargates found on nearly every major body in the solar system. According to the Agarthans, the Sphere Beings are in fact the Ancient Builder Race, although the SSP has yet to confirm this directly from them.

The dark side of the Moon is home to many different groups, including the ICC, the Draco Alliance, the SSP Alliance, the Dark Fleet, and more. The Moon is apparently an artificial object, and has become a neutral zone for all of these groups, which have maintained a peaceful armistice for thousands of years. The Moon serves as an observational outpost for over 60 groups of extraterrestrial races engaged in 22 genetic programs and social experiments on Earth. Some of these programs conflict with each other, yet all of them have influenced Earth's history for millennia.

Related David Wilcock and Corey Goode: History of the Solar System and Secret Space Program - Notes from Consciousness Life Expo 2016

Show Description: 
During his tenure with the Navy, William Tompkins worked with a secret think tank which designed spacecraft carriers and other military capabilities in space. All of their work was mired in cover-ups of cover-ups so deep that no one really knew who they were working for or what they were really trying to accomplish. Anyone who tried to push the limits of this secrecy seemed to have met an untimely end. What Tompkins and his associates worked so diligently to design, became the technological reality Corey Goode experienced while in service with the secret space programs. 
This discussion with David Wilcock was originally webcast August 2, 2016. 
Summarized notes will be in black, with my commentary in [green bolded brackets]. Alterations to the transcript for ease of reading will be in [brackets], but the original content of the dialog is always maintained. The images with black letter boxing were captured from this episode on Gaia TV.

Transcribed by Andrew K. Commentary by Justin Deschamps.

WT = William Tompkins, DW = David Wilcock, CG = Corey Goode.

  • DW - Hi, I’m David Wilcock, and you’re watching “Cosmic Disclosure.” I’m here with my co-host, Corey Goode. And as we saw in our first episode interview with former aerospace engineer William Tompkins, he is the consummate insider. We learned how spies discovered what the Germans had really been working on, including the invention of actual working flying saucers. In this episode, we’re going to go even further into the life and times of William Tompkins. He’s going to start out telling us about the secret think tank he was involved with while he was working with the Navy and dealing with the Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal.

  • WT - He’s the Secretary of the Navy. He’s sort of the top guy. And unlike many military organizations around the planet, everybody liked Forrestal. All of the people did. He was a really beautiful guy. And he knew what he was talking about. 
US president Harry Truman (left) James Forrestal (right).

James Forestal.
  • WT - But his people were essentially like a short name, a name that was abbreviated. And so it had quite a few different titles to it. That group were essentially the apex of the alumni. So at Douglas, we had the situation where putting together packages among different areas that we were working on in the think tank.

  • WT - Now other people in the tank were aware of who Forrestal was. And they were aware that we should not be using his group’s name. But essentially, every document that we came up with inside that secret think tank—how will this be accepted by that group? Are we deviating from their agenda? What is their agenda? Who are all of these people? Is the Bilderberg involved in this? Are other organizations—secret organizations—are they involved in this? 

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  • WT - We then structured our presentations to them when he came out to assume Forrestal was the number-one person in the country who ran the proper organization, the real organization, to handle technically the extraterrestrial. We have now what essentially is the US Navy space systems, which is not an organization, but it’s inside of the secret think tank at Douglas. That operation was controlling everything in the country. And the President of the United States was not included. Top military people, congressmen were not included. 
US president Harry Truman

US president Harry Truman (center, facing left).
  • WT - So here we are giving away the store to the people that are causing the problem. And I think this is hard for us to accept, but this is what was going on. We didn’t know it, but that’s what it appeared to be. In documents that I put together and several of the others that were submitted back to the Navy, I would make comments on essentially who does this information go to? This was a continuous problem in the secret think tank. Dr. Klemperer, he’s a real nice guy—smart, brilliant. And you can kid with him, OK? He’s my boss. 
Dr. Wolfgang Benjamin Klemperer, Scientific Director, Douglas Aircraft.
  • WT - Klemperer was convinced that there were two different groups. There was the standard organizations—the Navy’s levels of information. And then you got this other group up on top. And we know that the admiral was heading that group up on top. He was the head of it. So we assumed after he was assassinated that that was then true, because he then was talking too much. 

  • WT - These are the complexities of the program, where we’re off by ourselves, not being influenced by anybody. We’re coming up with what we think we’re going to have to do to solve an unbelievable problem. And when you don’t know who your boss is, you do the best you can.

  • DW - What you’re seeing here is very corroborating information with what so many others have been telling us over time about this mystery, of how do they keep this stuff secret. People say, "oh, the government can’t keep a secret. They can’t even find a file in a file cabinet. How could they keep these things secret?" Well, Corey, when we’re hearing about the guy who ultimately becomes the Secretary of Defense and was the first Secretary of Defense in America—Forrestal—and even he—they don’t know who he’s really working for. They don’t know—yeah, he’s the head of the Navy. He becomes the Secretary of Defense. But he mentioned this thing he called the alumni. And when I hear that, I’m thinking Illuminati.
  • CG - That’s a name that’s been used for them before in the military.
  • DW - You’re saying alumni?
  • CG - Alumni.
  • DW - They actually used that word?
  • CG - Mh-hmm.
  • DW - And that actually means Illuminati?
  • CG - Right, that was their name for it.

  • DW - He also kind of dances around a code name for this group, but he doesn’t say what it is. It appears to be MJ-12. Would you agree with that, that what he’s talking about?
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  • CG - Yes.
  • DW - OK. Have you ever been in a situation where the people that you’re working with don’t know who they’re reporting to or what their agenda really is?
  • CG - That’s the basic tool they use to keep people oblivious to what’s going on. And everything is highly compartmentalized. Even on the vessel I was on, everything was compartmentalized.
  • DW - Give me an example.
  • CG - Well, there was a large area that was at bay that we would use for transportation. And everything was modular. So the bay would be this open—you’d push it all the way open and then start building out laboratories or whatever else needed to be in there. And we would not—if I was working with a certain group of scientists, we would not have any idea what the other—just on the other side of the wall, going right next to each other.
  • DW - In the same research vessel?
  • CG - Right.
  • DW - Really?
  • CG - Yeah, and they do things like they’ll give us a special access program, the same name as a regular military program that’s secret so that, if one of the programs’ names is thrown out there, you can say, oh, look, it’s tied to this. This is a secret program, but it’s not what you think it is.
  • DW - He was tossing out some alphanumeric codes that were like alternative titles for this group. Is that commonly done? Is that kind of what you’re talking about now?
  • CG - Yeah, yeah. You give a group several different names so it causes confusion if people start to talk about them. They’ll be like, who? Well, I knew a group named this. And it just adds to the confusion.
  • DW - This compartmentalization that we’re speaking of, do some of the people in some of these space program factions not even know that there are other factions?
  • CG - Absolutely. Hardly any of them know about other factions. They will often know a little bit about less technological factions below them. A lot of them have come up through those. But they are not privy. If they see another craft, they’re told that it’s a concept craft for their program, not to speak about it to anyone.

  • DW - Tompkins also described that this guy, who supposedly is answering to this shadowy MJ-12 group, ended up getting murdered. Now, that suggests that there is something nefarious going on. We know the term MJ-12 didn’t even come into the public lexicon until the 1980s thanks to William Moore, Stanton Freidman, who got this roll of 35 mm film that had documents on it that, up until then, had never been available in public domain. Yet Tompkins clearly seems to have known about MJ-12, even though he didn’t want to say the name on camera. Why do you think people are so afraid of these guys, and what do you think happened to Forrestal?
  • CG - Well, Forrestal—it was reported in the smart glass pads—was one of the people that had been eliminated.
  • DW - Oh, really?
  • CG - Yes.
  • DW - It said that in there.
  • CG - Yes.
  • DW - Really.
  • CG - Yeah, and I don’t know who the other people are. A lot of their names I would have no base of reference. But yeah, they have a list of who was taken out in the name of national security or whatever.
  • DW - And did they use that as an incentive for people to keep their mouth shut?
  • CG - Yes, because everyone in the programs knows what happened, even though the general public is given a cover story.
  • DW - So the implication is that, no matter how high-falutin you think you are, how important you are, they’ll snuff you like a candle the minute you step out of line.
  • CG - Yeah, presidents, senators—it does not matter.
  • DW - Well, that’s a group you don’t want to mess with. In the next clip here, we’re going to be talking about Nordic secretaries and their role in helping to shape America’s development of their own secret space program. Let’s take a look.

  • WT - I could never get my secretary to admit that she was a Nordic, OK? And everybody knew it, but she wouldn’t accept. 
  • WT - But from what she would drop into conversations, essentially she was a part of the Nordic Navy, like a commander in intelligence with a mission to support a specific program—the Apollo program... 

  • WT - ... and support all of it, not just first phase to go to the Moon, but second phase to build Navy stations on all of the planets that were habitable or their moons in the solar system, and then build bases on all of the 12 closest stars. That was the Apollo mission. 

  • WT - Now, the two girls in engineering, the two Nordics, never in any way of that four years came up with anything that would bother the mission to be accomplished. They were constantly pushing everybody to the side who were trying to stop the program from being implemented. Cover it up, change information, do it wrong—everything, all the way through the four years. So we ended up—we roughly did four years. I roughly did four years in the Navy. And I roughly had slightly less than four years on Apollo. Now, part of my four years on Apollo was on Nova trucks. 
  • WT - And the Nova trucks were like 8 times the size of the Apollo, 10 times the size, depending on what you were—and they were trucks to haul all of the facility equipment that we needed to build a 20,000-men Naval station research center on the Moon. 

  • WT - That’s what we were supposed to be doing. The mission to the Moon was to build these facilities. And all we did was get to the Moon. And some guys gave us the finger and told us, don’t come back. OK, "go ahead and finish three more of your missions, and don’t come back." Well, these were the reptilians. So they were already there. We didn’t know that. And essentially, we got stopped a third way through the missions. 
  • Now, the Nordic people—what are they here for, and who are they? And we didn’t learn until much later there’s boxes full of Nordics, OK? I mean, we got a whole box full of them, like maybe 100 different types, we know now. 
  • WT - Back then, we just thought of one. The two young ladies represented the Nordic civilization. 
  • And my girl turned out to be a Nordic Navy Lieutenant Commander with a specific contract and a specific mission to get the Apollo program implemented, the whole program. So you have to say that that group that she supported from out in the galaxy were the greatest thing that could happen to the planet. Never did she ever come up with anything that threw cold water on any part of the program. She was always way ahead of everybody with how to fix it. 
  • And she telepathically, continually threw stuff in my head. Don’t let them go that way, Bill. You know what we talked about. You got to fix it. And I have to say, I never had any type of relationship with a person like her ‘till I got over to North American and then over to TRW. 
  • And those girls also refused to say that they were Nordics. But they again were doing exactly the same thing as my secretary at Douglas on the Apollo. They were pushing those girls. Had two of them at North American. The one I got into—my secretary, administrative assistant in TRW. So there, again, you’re getting support from an individual that is probably part of the Nordic Navy, implementing an agenda, again. They were at war with the reptilians way out there. And Solar Warden, of course, was our portion of that war. And they were also at war with the insects, the praying mantis people—if you want to call him that. 
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  • WT - And so we were fighting two of the really bad people collectively. We were going to be fighting with them, which the Nordics were already doing. And the Nordics had lost one massive battle between their planet and another planet, which the reptilians had, and restructured again and then were back at war again. We’re talking about a whole lot of things that were elements in who are the Nordics. Who are these guys?

  • DW - All right. Now, this is getting very interesting, because we’re starting to cross over into a lot of the areas that you folks have said are the things that you want us to talk about the most. And so we’re going to just tear right into this thing. 
  • Now, first of all, it was very interesting that he talked about the Apollo missions having phases and that only phase one was landing. He talked about them building trucks and that there was a separate launch site for these trucks, and that their goal was to actually build these 20,000-person bases first on the Moon, then on other planets and their moons, and then 12 stars around our solar system. That’s a lot of information, and I just want to get your take on that before we go into all the rest of it.
  • CG - Yeah, I may actually have visited one of those.
  • DW - One of what?
  • CG - Those installations in another star system, when I was taken through the portal to that moon that was around this gas giant that I described. So this could be one of those bases in one of the local 13 stars.
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  • DW - Now, he said that the reptilians told us to buzz off when we got to the Moon and that, on the overt level, the Apollo missions were not continued. But it definitely appears on a covert level that they were. And this might be one area in which Tompkins and the intel that he got hasn’t given him the full perspective on what really happened. Would you agree with that?
  • CG - Yes, yeah. The information is always going to be skewed and elements redacted.

  • DW - Now, he’s talking about a Nordic Navy. And he gave us some very interesting information. It was a little awkwardly worded maybe for some, but he talked about there being a "box of people" and that he said, within the box, we ultimately found out that there were 100 different types of Nordics. Is that consistent with anything that you’ve heard?
  • CG - The number isn’t. I don’t remember hearing that specific of a number, but yes. There were many different types categorized. And they were slightly different in size and stature. There was even one group that they were calling Nordics for a while—they have the Nordic look—that they’re are about 8 feet tall, have a big forehead and six fingers. And they were putting them in that category for a while. So that happens, just like there are tons of different beings out there that look similar to what we call the Grey.

  • DW - Now, he describes that these Nordics had a Navy and that the woman that was working with him as his secretary or administrative assistant when he goes over to TRW, that in either case, they had a command designation within that military structure. Is this consistent with anything that you’ve heard, that they have a sort of militarized structure to their organization?
  • CG - Yes.
  • DW - It is?
  • CG - Yes.
  • DW - Wow, OK.
  • CG - And also with the inner-Earth groups I was interacting with, seeing that they’re pilots that piloted the craft that we rode on to the Kuiper belt and Venus—they were very military type.
  • DW - Really?
  • CG - Yeah. Yeah, they said they have their military groups or scientific groups. They don’t all mesh together.

  • DW - Now, he describes a war that was being fought between the Nordics and the reptilians. And I thought one of the really interesting things that he dropped on us was that there was a planet that the Nordics actually lost in this war because apparently there was an adjacent planet controlled by the reptilians. And they were fighting over this area. The Nordics lost that war and then had to regroup and that apparently part of their regrouping was coming here and working with us.
  • CG - That was probably one operation or mission out of their regrouping.
  • DW - Right. So how long has this war gone on? Has it been an ongoing war with the Nordics for, let’s say, tens of thousands of years?
  • CG - I really don’t know how long they’ve been fighting. But I do know that there are wars out there that have been fought with the reptilians and their allies. And they’ve conquered planets. And one of the groups that works with the reptilians is a Nordic-looking being that I described earlier, with the big forehead and the six fingers. And all the intelligence was that they were a conquered race that was forced to work.

  • DW - All right. Now, let’s get right down into this idea of Nordics actually appearing within the military-industrial complex and taking on essentially support jobs but telepathically influencing people at those jobs. Is it possible that these Nordics could actually be doing this? Could they actually appear on Earth and get these jobs and get the security clearance necessary to be in these positions?
  • CG - Yes, yeah. There are a number of them living on the surface of the Earth right now walking among us.
  • DW - A number of them, like as in how many would you...
  • CG - I don’t know. I mean, it’s from different groups. The Anshar told me of thousands of years ago, one of the factions within their conglomerate of groups was banished to the caverns towards the surface and the surface of the planet.
  • DW - Really?
  • CG - Yeah.
  • DW - How would one of these Nordic men or women be able to get into such a highly-compartmentalized, highly-classified thing? Wouldn’t our government or the military-industrial complex be highly-afraid of them because of the possibility of them either deceiving us or bringing intel back to their own group and then weaponizing it against us?
  • CG - Yeah, and after a while, they found out that we were being deceived about some things that the Nordics—that we’re calling them—did for operational security, you know? There were definite some deceptions that were given to us. But for the most part, they were learning about the reptilian threat and the threat of their allies. And this group looks a lot like us. Basically, it’s like a cousin coming to help a cousin.
  • DW - The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
  • CG - Yeah, yeah. But these people presented themselves as wanting us to get rid of our nukes, wanting us to become more loving and peaceful. And they just—they did not see as big of a threat from them as they did their enemy, the reptilian groups.

  • DW - One of the things that Tompkins is going into that’s different from what you’ve said is he seems to be portraying these Nordics, at least in this part of the interview, as being essentially from outer space, from other worlds. So what do you think is really going on here? Is this...
  • CG - Well, it’s a mixture. So I don’t know what group he was in contact with. He could very well have been in contact with a non-terrestrial group. But the groups that I had contact with that fit this description claim to be created on this planet naturally and that this is their home.
  • DW - Now, Corey, I want to get into something that’s a really sensitive, personal thing for you and that everybody who’s watched the show, it’s their favorite episode. And that is, when you had this mind meld with Kaaree, the priestess of the inner-Earth. And you reach out your hands to her hands. She offered you some kind of beverage that you declined. You didn’t want to drink the drink.
Courtesy of spherebeingalliance.com. Artist depiction of Priestess Kaaree during mind mild with CG.
  • CG - The elixir of Isis.
  • DW - Let’s just talk a little bit about what she showed you. And does that corroborate in any way with what Tompkins just told us in this interview?
  • CG - Yes, and she was connecting with me to focus on one small period in my youth. And as we regressed in the mind meld to that time, I was seeing her life, too, throughout the same time periods, or her age, that matched mine. And one of the things that I saw was a series of meetings that she had with military types. The suits looked—the material looked ‘40s, ‘50s era. And she was speaking with Russians, with English, Canadian, United States representatives of the military...
  • DW - Wow.
  • CG - ... and assisting them. And they said that they assist them psychically. They assist them with some technology. So yeah, there’s definitely some crossovers.

  • DW - All right. So now we’re going to have another clip for you. And this is getting into some really interesting stuff in which Tompkins is going to be describing his own experience of understanding that abductions are taking place. And we’re also going to hear him describing what he knows personally about the inner-Earth. And this stuff absolutely blew my mind, because, Corey, there were some things he says here we’re going to see that even go farther than what you’ve said to me before. And it rocked my world, so check it out. You’re going to love this.

  • WT - A lot of people have been abducted for years. And a lot of them are still being abducted. But we’re into a situation where, what do we do now? How do we fix this? 
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  • What are all the things we have to do to fix it? There are ancient extraterrestrial facility people, if you want to call them that, who have been living underground in massive caverns for thousands of years. The Earth itself is almost a honeycomb. It has millions of massive caverns. We look at the little caverns that they have over in New Mexico. And everybody goes there, and they look at the cavern. They looked at the entrance of a guy’s office. That’s all they looked at. 

  • WT - When we’re talking caverns earth-wise, one of the caverns in Southern California goes way past into Oregon. And it goes east into Nevada. And it’s one cavern. And there’s caverns inside that cavern. There’s caverns inside of caverns, not just tunnels. 
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  • WT - But there’s bubble caverns inside of caverns. And some caverns are only a couple of miles long. But we are honeycombed. And so of these extraterrestrials came here, some of them before Nova [Noah] built the raft. And some of them came after he built the raft, after the flood. 
  • WT - But then there’s been seven flood kinds of things that have happened here. We forget about that. My uncle Walter had specifics of seven times when they took place. One was a situation where we had earthquakes on a continuous basis from Alaska to the South Pole all at the same time. Split the thing wide open. And so that caused all kinds of floods. 
  • And so, yes, we have extraterrestrials here on the planet that are not just living in caverns. They have cities there. They have industry there. They have entertainment there. They have essentially—maybe not like us. But they have essentially a full life there. They’re born, they work, and they step out of the picture. 
  • And some of them have ridiculous short lives like humans. Others have in-betweens, living 2,000 or 3,000. Others don’t stop living, period. And these people sort of live together in the different caverns, but obviously with totally different agendas, totally different lives, and different missions. 
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  • Now, the Air Force got involved in this. And so they built their diggers, which are about half a mile long. And they’ll dig a hole. 

  • WT - It’ll be 100 foot in diameter. And we have trains throughout the United States, all over the country, even connecting to Nova Scotia, and some of them connecting to other countries locally, in this particular hemisphere. 

  • WT - But the extraterrestrial tunnels are like 300 feet and close to 400 feet [wide]. 
  • WT - And these tunnels—the tunnel diggers dig at 2 to 3 miles an hour. And they reduce all of the rock, all of the material—everything—down to microscopic material. And they spray it on that lining of the tunnel, which then turns to be almost glass, which then is electrically excited and becomes a lighted tunnel. 
Alleged photograph of nuclear powered tunnel machine, much like the one described by Tompkins.
  • WT - And these guys are running there 2 miles an hour, operating this tunnel, which then has subsonic vehicles operating on rail that don’t leave the rail all over the planet—not just from ours, like from Washington DC, and the Pentagon to all the Air Force facilities at Vandenberg. 
  • And so we run into their tunnels digging ours. And we get not too graciously suggested to take another route. And like in New Mexico, we have a large facility there. And we’ve had wars with some of the extraterrestrials that are there and wars with our military people and light skirmishes continually. 
  • But then our people that are taken from their university laboratory to that facility, they get taken pretty fast. Like, in one second, they’re there. And they take them inside. And they let them continue that particular research that they were doing at the university, except that now they are a slave. They’re not a business associate. They are a slave. So now we got slavery going in these caverns all over your planet. 
  • But then that’s not such a big deal, because out in the galaxy, the different extraterrestrials, they do the same thing. And they take the good guys, and they abduct them, take them to their facilities on their planet. Or they take them down underground of their original planet, and they do the same thing. So again, we don’t have just Earth as a laboratory. We have billions of laboratories on billions of stars out in the galaxy doing the same thing. We’re really low on the totem pole, unfortunately.
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  • DW - <Exhales> Heh. OK, you saw it. I saw it. Corey saw it. This just happened. This is something that we are not fooling you. This is not a joke, OK? Tompkins is real. I’ve interviewed him a bunch of times now. And Corey, how does it feel to see this stunning body of corroboration for everything that you’ve been telling us?
  • CG - It’s amazing.
  • DW - He described the people inside the Earth as extraterrestrials. And he said that there are different types of lifespans, some of which live very short lives like ours, some of which live longer, and he said some of which live essentially indefinitely. So let’s just get your feedback first on that statement about them being extraterrestrials.
  • CG - Well, I would agree that a very large contingent of extraterrestrials, many different types, have what we called embassies in caverns all across the planet. But as I’ve given in my testimony, I recently had contact with a group, inner-Earth group, that claimed to have developed on this planet, which would not make them non-terrestrials.
The inner-Earth group known as the Anshar, one of the seven groups CG met during his recent mission. This group claims to be the oldest race of humans on the planet, reaching back over 18 million years. 
  • DW - Right. So some of these people may, in fact, be indigenous to Earth. It’s just that they have evolved or they developed in these inner-Earth areas.
  • CG - Right.

  • DW - OK. Now another thing that I really was taken aback by that caused me shock when I saw this was his statement that there are millions of caverns. And then he actually used the word “honeycomb.” I just want to clarify for everybody watching that he was not prompted with your testimony. He never heard you refer to it as the honeycomb Earth. You had not seen “The Law of One,” which also refers to it as a honeycomb Earth. So we have three independent sources now all documented, in addition to others who’ve mentioned it that way to me privately—other insiders that don’t want to come forward. So let’s just start with that. Would you agree that there are, in fact, millions of caverns inside the Earth?
  • CG - Yes, yes. The way the Earth developed, there was, I think, similar to a vascular system going through it, you know, of molten rock. And as it cooled off, it formed all kinds of caverns. And then the tectonic activity on the Earth, as crazy as it is, has created those as well.
  • DW - Hmm. Now, we had some people write comments on an article that I wrote recently talking about the inner-Earth, where they didn’t understand why those caverns would be safe from things like giant earthquakes on the surface of the Earth.
  • CG - Right. These are down towards more below, further down in the crust than most of the fault lines, except for the deepest fault lines. And then they do not normally, depending on their level of technological development—thus different non-terrestrials that live different ages—you know, they’re in different stages of development. Some of the higher technological groups, it would not be as difficult for them to live close to fault lines. But most of this is very deep in the 20-to-40-mile range of the crust.
  • DW - Right, so an earthquake’s only going to jiggle up near the surface. And the shakes aren’t even going to make it down that far to any significant level.
  • CG - It jiggles all—yeah, the whole thing. Shockwaves travel through the rock in both directions. But a lot of them, of the more technologically developed groups, have the technology to mitigate that.
  • DW - Oh, like shock absorbers, basically.
  • CG - Yeah, sort of. Something like that. Energetic.

  • DW - Now, he also said—I just want to get your raw comment on this without interjecting my opinion. He mentioned a cavern that goes from California up past Oregon and then all the way over to Nevada that he says is one single, contiguous cavern. That’s a pretty shocking statement. What’s your response to that?
  • CG - Well, I’ve talked a little bit about the same cavern system. Part of it, we have submarines going in and out, going far inland into the United States, popping up in lakes. [During a recent update, CG referred to a worldwide system of tunnels used to transport all manner of things for secret government activities. One of these tunnel systems is along the deep ocean ridges of the Earth, which apparently have massive volcanic tunnels as well as ancient tunnel systems created by highly advanced civilizations. Here is an artist depiction of an enormous archway built by one of these ancient races located near Antarctica.]
  • DW - OK, so some of these caverns are not hollow and filled with air. They’re going to have seawater in them, in some cases.
  • CG - It’s a mixture. Depends on how the cavern is sealed off, how the cavern runs, as opposed to a cavern that’s right next to it. So a lot of the times, they’ll have one area that’s water that they’ll have submarines in. They’ve dug through to another cavern area that is somewhat pressurized naturally, keeps the water out, and build out facilities.

  • DW - All right. So another really disturbing aspect of this clip that we just saw is him describing what appears to be a variety of different types of slavery going on. He describes slavery inside the Earth, humans being taken to other solar systems. And you’ve covered on this in other episodes. And you also did it with George Noory on “Beyond Belief” here on Gaia. But could you touch on some of your feelings about his sentiments about the slave trade?
  • CG - Yes, and he’s either only reporting a small amount because it’s so disturbing, or that’s all he was briefed on. But he was touching on, well, the abduction scenario, he touched on. But the people disappearing off the planet, that are just being abducted, that, during a certain time period, were being abducted by non-terrestrials and were being taken outside of our star system for slave trade. Later on, we decided, hey, this is a commodity—we being the cabal-type groups. And they started obtaining and trading humans for technology and biological material.
  • DW - So what can we do about this slave trade? It’s a very disturbing thing for people. I can understand they might feel powerless. Is there anything that we can do to try to bring this to a halt and get freedom to happen for people on Earth?
  • CG - Well, on our end, the most we can do is make people aware that it exists. You can’t tackle a problem unless you’re aware there is a problem. And I mean, everyone’s asleep. They’ve been mind controlled. And this information’s going to be very disturbing and very hard to accept for many of these people. But to mitigate it, what people can do on this, is mainly just educate themselves and others about it so, when this information does come out, people won’t lay in bed and suck their thumbs.
  • DW - Now, you also mentioned some messages that the Blue Avians gave you regarding what will happen to people who have been kept as slaves as we go through this shift and the Draco have been defeated. And I believe this concerns certain breakaway groups.
  • CG - Right, and there are some non-terrestrial groups and a couple breakaway groups that are assisting in this. The infiltrators that infiltrated the program, the galactic slave trade program, started putting tracking markers on their victims so that they could later track them down to wherever they went, no matter where in the galaxy or other galaxies, and send their allies in to retrieve them. And then after they’ve been retrieved, they’re in all different psychological states from what they’ve been through. And the ancient Mayan group has been helping a lot of them recover and heal on one of their planets.
  • DW - So in short, do you think that, as we get this breakdown of the negative, the Draco, being defeated, as we’ve discussed in other episodes, that there will be a widespread rescue and salvage operation for these people that have been brought into slavery?
  • CG - That already has been ongoing.
  • DW - OK. So it’s just important for people to hear then that something is being done and a lot of these people who might be enslaved now will be able to be freed as we go through this change.
  • CG - Yes, and once they go through all the healing, they will be returned to our society, whatever state it’s in at that time.
  • DW - Wow. Alright. Well, this has been really fascinating. I want to thank you for watching our show. This is certainly mind-blowing. After all this time, people say, oh, Corey has no validation. Well, what you’ve just seen here is a game changer. And I encourage you to tell everybody you know about this, because now that we’re bringing this all together, maybe a lot of people who wouldn’t have taken this seriously before are going to take a second look. And we do need your help. We need as many people as possible to educate themselves about this. As Corey just said, it’s vital to humanity’s future that we no longer act as ostriches, that we have the awareness of what’s really going on. This is “Cosmic Disclosure.” I’m here with Corey Goode and William Tompkins. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I thank you for watching.
Click here for a Summary and Analysis of Season 5 Episode 13.

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