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Friday, May 13, 2016

The David Crayford Discussion Continues… Benjamin Fulford, the Collateral Accounts, and Who Owns the Gold

The first part of this series is listed below, and embedded within the preamble of the Event Chronicle's compilation. 

Related Benjamin Fulford - May 10th 2016: Fulford on David Cayford | Collateral Accounts, Gold Distribution, Criminal Accusations made by Crayford

I found Crayford's statements discussing who the wealth really belongs to quite interesting. He suggests that the wealth held in the Collateral Accounts is not the people's, it is "GOD's." He further claims that those people who worked to pull it out of the ground were "paid a fair wage" and the wealth is not theirs anymore. This suggests that those who were defrauded to accept such paltry payments have no recourse in law, which is a fallacy.



But, the basis for the wealth belonging to the creator is actually fairly sound, for in truth, all ownership is only temporary. When we die, what we had returns to the Earth. On the other hand, the creator has no need for money, gold, or any other representation of value. This means the wealth is held in trust for humanity, which Crayford only makes a small reference to. 

Crayford goes on to say that the people can't be trusted with this wealth. So one question I have is, if the wealth is not the people's, and it is God's, where do the trustees of the accounts factor in?

A trustee is beholden to a executor of a trust, the originator in most cases. The creator made the gold, and deposited in the Earth, the people pulled it out of the ground, and the elders held it in trust—at least this is the foundation for the Collateral Accounts in law. But I think it is safe to say at this point that the elders haven't held up their end of the bargain. 

Crayford's statements suggest that God is the executor, and certain intermediaries on Earth were entrusted with the wealth to uplift humanity, to actually do God's will—which is in harmony with a trust structure in law. But since, in most cases, these same intermediaries to God are also intimately connected to the Cabal, such as the Vatican, what makes them anymore trusted than your average human being? Are not these people who claim powers over the Collateral Accounts human as well?

These so-called elders were responsible for helping humanity climb out of darkness, but instead, there are more institutions on Earth that promote ignorance and dependency than arguably any other time in history. The very beings who were responsible for assisting humanity have enslaved it by promoting ignorance and dumbing down the people. And then these same people point to humanity's current state as proof we can't be trusted—this sounds like a con job. 

Of course, while humanity continues to labor under paradigms of false scarcity imposed by despotic elites, who claim to be custodians over humanity, these same elites continue to enjoy the benefit of maintaining the Collateral Accounts. And humanity continues to suffer under their defunct custodianship.

Simply put, Crayford's statements sound like a good excuse to maintain the status quo, and further the paradigm of illusory authority which has ravaged the planet for eons. Those he represents get to enjoy power while holding up their hands to say humanity hasn't got its act together. 

Of course, there are probably elements I am not aware of, but I wanted to offer some frank commentary on the overarching basis of Crayford's position.

- Justin

Source - The Event Chronicle

Note: This is a follow-up to the previous post of a discussion between Benjamin Fulford and David Crayford. I suggest you read it first for context, if you have not done so all ready, before continuing below. 

David Crayford writes in response to Benjamin Fulford’s latest report:

I am referring to a section (Refer below) of Fulford’s latest article which is totally incorrect and needs correction to prevent misrepresenting facts to the public.
Since Henry Kissinger’s fraudulent hijacking of the dollar system has ended, as far as we can tell there are two current claimants for the position of M1, or controller of the US dollar system. One is Neil Keenan and the other is believed to be the eldest surviving son of former Philippine president Ferdinand Marcos who now lives in Canada and is represented by a David P. Crayford. If either of them can pull it off, we suggest they conjure up some dollars and take delivery of the gold. It is a good deal: solid gold in exchange for paper and numbers in computers. If neither of them can pull it off, we suggest that General Joseph Dunford step in and arrange this deal.
There are NO current claims for the M1 position, as claimed by Fulford. That position is already held by the existing International Treasury Controller, and cannot be held by anyone else, nor can it be just handed around like a piece of bread.
I can categorically state that I do not represent the so-called eldest surviving son of Ferdinand Marcos, as claimed by Fulford. I represent, as Legal Advisor / Consultant, the International Treasury Controller who is the current M1.
I am aware of the eldest surviving son of Marcos who was Marcos’s heir successor, not his heir to the position of M1, but he got fed up with all the serious threats he was receiving and passed everything, by legal document, over to Dr Ray C. Dam who was the International Treasury Controller at the time.
The M1 position was passed down by Marcos, by legal Deed, to another, a highly respected Royal Family member, on December 20th 1988, which was subsequently passed down by legal deed to the International Treasury Controller, formerly Dr Ray C. Dam and now the new International Treasury Controller, both being descendants of Royal Families.
It can only be passed down in succession, by an existing M1 complete with all the correct legal documents, and the Alpha – Omega Ring, for which I am fully aware of where that Alpha – Omega ring currently resides
That is how it currently is and that is how it will remain, because the new International Treasury Controller has no intention of retiring or resigning his position at any time now or in the future.
As for Neil Keenan claiming the position of M1, that is real BS, because I am aware he is already “Blacklisted” as a criminal, reference to his own criminal activities of attempted fraud and theft of Collateral Account Assets and his activities and involvement with known criminals Yamaguchi and Watanabe who each received prison sentences in their absence for criminal activities in Italy, for :-
a). Being in possession of Banking Instruments that were proclaimed fake, which were discovered in a secret compartment of Yamaguchi’s briefcase
b). Attempting to cross National Borders carrying Banking Instruments to be used in attempted fraud and fraudulent deception.
Crossing National Borders in Europe, carrying any form of Banking Instrument, legitimate or otherwise, is a criminal offence in Europe.
So you have got this totally wrong Fulford and you are propagating absolute BS and misinformation. You have no idea of what is involved with the M1 position or its succession line.
I think you believe that you can just walk into a shop and buy it, just like the International Treasury Controller’s position, off the shelf.
How some people dream these things up just completely amazes and astonishes me.
Regards
David Crayford
Source: Rumor Mill News

A reader named “JC” responds to David Crayford:

THE WEALTH OF THIS PLANET BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE.
WHERE DO YOU THINK ALL OF THAT WEALTH OF THIS PLANET CAME FROM?
ALL THAT GOLD, ALL THE TREASURE AND HOARDED WEALTH OF THIS PLANET WAS CREATED AND PRODUCED BY THE PEOPLE OF THIS PLANET THROUGHOUT TIME.
THERE ISN’T A COIN, INGOT OR TON OF GOLD SILVER OR PLANINUM THAT WAS CREATED WITHOUT THE PEOPLE OF THIS PLANET PULLING IT OUT OF THE GROUND AND PRODUCING WHAEVER IT BECAME. CROWN OR CEPTOR. SCULPTURE OR DINNERWARE.
IT WAS NOT PRODUCED OR CREATED BY ANY ELDERS, ROYALS OR DRAGON FAMILIES OR THE CABAL.
IT WAS CREATED BY THE HARD SWEAT OF COMMON PEOPLE WHO CREATED IT.
WE ARE THE CREATORS OF EVERYTHING THERE EVER WAS CREATED OVER OUR HISTORY OF TIME.
WE ARE THE ARCHITECHS, THE DOCTORS THE NURSES, THE ARTISTS THE ENGINEERS.
THE CABAL AND LEADERS OF THE WORLD ARE NOTHING WITHOUT US.
WE ARE EVERYTHING WITHOUT THEM.
THE CABAL, CRAYFORD, AMERICAN LAWYER, KEENAN, HUDES, FULFORD, LANDA, THE DRAGON FAMILIES AND ANYONE ELSE WHO BELIEVE THEY ARE OR SHOULD BE THE KEEPERS OF THIS OR ANY WEALTH CAN ARGUE TILL THE COWS COME HOME.
BUT ALL THAT WEALTH THEY REFER TO AND TALK ABOUT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS PLANET.
WE THE PEONS AND COMMON PEOPLE HAVE REPEATEDLY DIED FOR IT LIFE TIME AFTER LIFE TIME, GENERATION AFTER GENERATION.
IT BELONGS TO NO ONE ELSE BUT US.

David Crayford Replies:

The wealth referred to is GOD’S WEALTH, otherwise known as “DIVINE WEALTH” owned by Foundation Divine. It is not the people’s wealth as you claim.
As it is GOD’S WEALTH, then GOD has the right to decide who controls and manages that wealth, so that it is used carefully and professionally for the people.
What if it was your wealth JC, would you allow some group of people to demand who controls your wealth whereby you would have no say in the matter. NO YOU WOULDN’T, WOULD YOU. SO LET’S TRY NOT TO SEND STUPIDITY TO ITS ULTIMATE AND MAXIMUM LEVELS.
Furthermore, do you honestly believe that GOD can trust the people. They have the opportunity to elect people to administer and manage their country, which they do, but what an almighty mess they make of that opportunity to elect the right and decent people / politicians, who only bring their country to its knees, with corruption, greedy, selfishness, belligerent attitudes, ineptitude, etc with impunity. The people do nothing to correct the situation.
Honestly JC, do you really believe that GOD would trust the people with all this wealth, to elect a person or party to manage this wealth when they make such a mess of other things.
GOD dedicated people who he could trust and rely upon, and from there to their successors, and so on. That way he was certain in his mind that it would be managed and administered in a manner that would be totally beneficial to the people.
Yes, it is the bloodline, so what, this bloodline, whether you want to believe it or not, is Benevolent and that is why GOD chose same.
Just imagine (well you don’t have to imagine to much) what would happen if the wrong people got hold of this wealth, as they did in 1945 with the TTTGC. There was so much, in fact an enormous amount of Fraud and Theft going on, that even GOD’s chosen one, Ferdinand Marcos, couldn’t fully control it. He ended up dead at the hands of America and the CIA.
The TTTGC created an almighty mess of the whole thing and they were removed. Now it is back in the hands of GOD’s chosen ones and the mess created has to be cleaned up.
Your statement, quote “THERE ISN’T A COIN, INGOT OR TON OF GOLD SILVER OR PLANINUM THAT WAS CREATED WITHOUT THE PEOPLE OF THIS PLANET PULLING IT OUT OF THE GROUND AND PRODUCING WHAEVER IT BECAME. CROWN OR CEPTOR. SCULPTURE OR DINNERWARE.
IT WAS NOT PRODUCED OR CREATED BY ANY ELDERS, ROYALS OR DRAGON FAMILIES OR THE CABAL.
IT WAS CREATED BY THE HARD SWEAT OF COMMON PEOPLE WHO CREATED IT.
Yes, agreed, and at time they were paid for their labour, so they have received compensation for their hard sweat. That doesn’t mean they own this wealth.
Whether the payment they received was adequate compensation for their hard sweat is not your problem and not ours, nor GOD’s. That is a man made situation and since those early days some progress has been made in conditions of employment.
On another point, you have the IMF, World Bank, BIS, International Finance Corp, and others, who control a lot of your life and the lives of others, but you have no opportunity whatsoever to elect the officials who manage and administer them.
Isn’t that a bit unfair JC. Yet you are postulating about a subject which you know very little about, screaming it‘s the peoples, when you should be postulating about another subject that affects you and others far more. You want the right of the people to be exercised, then start with man made things such as the IMF, WB, BIS, etc and let us get on with our job for GOD to help the people in a proper manner so that the benefit is felt throughout the world.
Your statement, quote “IT BELONGS TO NO ONE ELSE BUT US.”
DC Get real JC. It is to be used for the people but it doesn’t belong to the people.
You obviously haven’t read any past postings of mine otherwise you would never be saying such ridiculous things.
Some people, in fact quite a large part of the earth’s population, just cannot look after what they already have, so how on earth can you expect such people to manage such vast wealth, they can’t. They can’t even elect decent people to administer and manage their country either, and most of all, if they are not GOD fearing people and do everything they personally want to do, do you not think that GOD will take his revenge eventually.
Take the people who followed Moses into the desert. Whilst Moses was up on Mount Sinai, roughly half of the people doubted GOD and MOSES. They involved themselves with Drugs, Drink, Prostitution, Gambling, and all sorts of things which were against the 10 Commandments and GOD’s will.
The 50% eventually went their own way and were lost in the wilderness of the desert, never to be heard of again. The other 50% followed MOSES and eventually found their sanctuary as MOSES told them they would.
NOT UNLIKE THE SITUATION IN THE WORLD TODAY JC, IS IT.
SO GET REAL BEFORE YOU FALL FOUL OF GOD. SORT OUT WHICH CAMP YOU BELONG TO JC
Regards
David Crayford
Source: Rumor Mill News
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http://www.theeventchronicle.com/intel/david-crayford-discussion-continues/
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